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Has anyone, except H2H, developed cultural heritage apps through their LPS? We are looking to promote walking routes which draw on the artistic heritage of Teesdale and it would be good to know if you recommend or don't recommend any companies. We need someone creative, easy to work with and preferably based in the north. Also any examples of apps / audio trails would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Alex

View Alexandra Sijpesteijn's profile Alexandra Sijpe... Jul 14 2015 - 5:08pm
  1. Hello there, no specifics but a generic - please consider specifying your app in html5 rather than OS specific apps (andriod or IOS or windows) for accesibility and legacy.

    html5can be run on any device that can load a web browser (so desktop too) and can do very advanced mapping and map caching (you could even ask walkers to contribute pictures on their way!).

    See Bristol's Know Your Place http://maps.bristol.gov.uk/kyp/

    or the CBA's Home Front legacy recorder http://www.homefrontlegacy.org.uk/wp/

    for examples.

    All the best,

    Rebecca

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  3. Hi, Alex.  Caradon Hill http://www.caradonhill.org.uk is one of a number of LPs that has used apps for its heritage trails - see http://www.caradonhill.org.uk/apps - these seemed to work well (though I don't think there's been any systematic monitoring) - I'll send you separately the contact details of  someone who can tell you more.

    Incidentally I think Caradon Hill is an interesting example of legacy - the LP finished in March 2014 but the website continues as a central resource for what was one of the less well-known areas in the SW and a legacy group (representatives of local organisations and those interested in keeping projects alive and developing new ones) continues to meet.

    Rich

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  5. Our experiences at Suffolk Coast and Heaths have not been so happy - give Cathy Smith a call on 01394 445225 for details.  It rather put my LPS off from doing an app. Development of the AONB / Destination Marketing Organisation App was long and painful…

    I'm not a techie but a big limiting facor is that here at least there is rarely any signal in the interesting places, (in fact no mob signal in ANY of the places we'd planned an app for!) plus the need for different versions for different platforms.

    Other issues are that there are already zillions of apps out there ( I believe many 00,000,000s) so giving yours a genuine USP and then marketing it to your target audience is quite challenging.

    Plus here Suffolk County Council only allows Windows phones for staff which is rather limiting in terms of field testing!

    So a cautionary tale from here, glad to hear others had more success

     

    Bill

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  7. Thank you everyone for your suggestions, guidance and experiences! I will give Cathy a ring Bill as it would be useful to know pitfalls and things to avoid. I and other members of HoT aren't techies either (my only app is BBC weather) so we would be placing a lot of faith in the company to deliver the best solution for the area. I wasn't aware of html5 so I will add that in.

    Thanks again

    Alex

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  9. Cathy is back on the 27th - she's on holiday now.

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  11. Alex

    We'd included the development of two apps in our LCAP. One to focus on the collecting of data / information (primarily environmental) and another to act to promote what there is in the area. Over the first year of implementation we've moved away from apps, based on reviewing what we want from them, costs, but primarily the points raised by Bill. There are lots of other apps out there that will do the job better than we can do it. We have access to many good app designers but in a crowded market ours won't have a USP. In terms of potential cost per user my thoughts were that the funding could have more impact elsewhere.

    Another key factor though has been the development of our website and looking at how people are now moving away from desktop to mobile access of sites. Our temporary (free site) was built using Wordpress and it opened our eyes to how easy it was to update and how it automatically uses responsive design (it adapts to suit what device you're using). The responsive design means that the full site is accessible and useable on mobile devices looking very much like an app. Having a good 3G or 4G signal clearly remains an issue but that applies to apps as well as websites. We update the website and it then is automatically and immediately updated and accessible via all devices. We're not launching the full site until September but from talking with our designers yesterday the adaption between devices is central to what they are doing and how people interact with the site.

    I don't want to throw cold water on the app idea, we may re-visit in the future, but as it stands we're not going down that route.

    Thanks

    Richard

     

     

     

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  13. Has anyone, except H2H, developed cultural heritage apps through their LPS? We are looking to promote walking routes which draw on the artistic heritage of Teesdale and it would be good to know if you recommend or don't recommend any companies. We need someone creative, easy to work with and preferably based in the north. Also any examples of apps / audio trails would be great.

    Thanks in advance.

    Alex

    LP-09-05504

    Hi Alex,

    We have developed an App, launched earlier this year to highlight places of interest and also walking routes. All in all i think we have a good product but it was quite a laborious process. Worked with a good contractor, Dan Boys, but took a lot more staff time than anticipated. My advice is to be very clear in discussions / agreement with a contractor about the process, timescales, costs, and input from your LP staff / team / partners. Also, the development and testing can get a bit technical and our contractor brought in a sub-contractor for the build, and comms with them was rather frustrating at times as they were 'one removed' as it were. Not the best arrangement. All this was fedback to our contractor, Dan Boys of Audiotrails. All in all, I would recommend Audiotrails - their attention to detail and research for the narrative was of a high standard. Dan also interviewed local people and we used the audioclips in the app.

    Our app is called 'This Is Gower'. We have had positive feedback from the public who have used the app.

    Happy for you to contact me if you want to discuss things further.

    Helen

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  15. Hi Helen

    Please could you check your messages function on this portal, or send me your work email? Mine is alex.sijpesteijn@durham.gov.uk. I wrote a message as I couldn't find your email address anywhere. Thanks!

    Alex

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  17. Looks like there has been mixed experience with apps - an easy way to spend grant but not so easy to download/ use/ monitor.  The only two comments are from two individuals who tried to download from the Android store and gave up

    Maybe MP3 / MP4 audio trails are a better/ low-tech alternative - easily downloadable from the LP website or paste in a link to You Tube?  And do they need to be professionally produced?  Maybe the outcomes/ legacy (and local ownership) would be greater if the trails are designed by (could even be narrated by) project participants. 

    Quite a few LPs have produced their own audio/ video trails.  I’m impressed by Windermere Reflections LP trails produced as part of an industrial archaeology project; see www.lakedistrict.gov.uk/learning/archaeologyhistory/reflections-on-history-audio-trails

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  19. We're just about to  embark on a new project that, during the development phase as part of an access and interpretation masterplan, proposed an app to help people find their way around a trail network and gain information about the industrial (mining) heritage and the new forested environment.  It includes features like augmented reality to bringthe story of landscape change to life.

    Having read the thread here - seen some good examples and lots of woes too - is there anyone I could talk to that has evaluated their app?  Have they increases visitor numbers, are people using them do they like them etc?

    Thanks for your help,

     

    Alan

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